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The Extreme Moderates of Islam

Unless one is coming at you with a knife it can be hard to tell an extremist from a moderate, so here’s a handy guide: Muslim extremists will kill you while moderates deal in excuses and rationalisations for their more ardent brethren. Ultimately, though, both take their cues from the Koran

Case one: Hassan Khalif Shire Ali drove a truck loaded with gas bottles into Melbourne’s CBD on November 9. After the vehicle became engulfed in flames, Ali attacked passers-by with a knife. He killed café bar owner Sisto Malaspina, 74, and wounded two other men.

Scott Morrison said that the Islamic community must do more to stop extremism. “For those who want to stick their head in the sand, for those who want to make excuses, you are not making Australia safer. You are giving people an excuse to look the other way and not deal with things right in front of you … If there are people in a religious community, an Islamic community, that are bringing in hateful, violent, extremist ideologies into your community, you’ve got to call it out.”

Australia’s Grand Mufti, Ibrahim Abu Mohamed sharply rebuffed Morrison. “This bloody Prime Minister, instead of turning the heat on somebody else, he should answer us about what he did. He has spent billions of dollars — billions — on security services. And what is the end result? We have crazy people in the streets.”

Since 9/11, the Religion of Peace website records 34,150 deadly Islamic terrorist attacks. Over forty since the Melbourne attack. Lots of crazy Muslims around the world apparently.

Case two: Asia Bibi, a Christian, is in hiding in Pakistan after being acquitted of blasphemy. New prime minister Imran Kahn, you might recall he used to play the civilised game of cricket, has refused, under pressure of the rabid Islamic mobs, to let her leave the country pending a review of her acquittal. Her lawyer has already sensibly skedaddled. She spent eight years on death row, despite the intercession some years’ ago of Pope Benedict XVI, who, for his trouble, was sharply rebuffed by Pakistan’s prime minister at the time, Yousuf Raza Gilani.

In 2011, the governor of the Punjab, Salmaan Taseer, was assassinated by one of his police bodyguards. His ‘sin’ was opposing the blasphemy laws which had resulted in Bibi facing execution. The assassin was celebrated by the aforementioned mobs. Reportedly the British government has refused to offer Bib asylum in case it causes unrest among the same kind of mobs which now inhabit Britain.

What have these two quite disparate cases got in common? Yes, they have Islam in common; but it is more than that. They have in common a rejection of Enlightenment values; of civilised values. We like to pretend that differences can be worked through and resolved, but they can’t between people who have quite different value systems. Scott Morrison is whistling in the wind as was Pope Benedict.

Of course, we have a common assumption among our great and good that most Muslims are peaceable. Very few would ever think of terrorism. That is true. At the same time, it is a meaningless consolation.   

Unfortunately, no matter how refreshing is some political comment on Islam, and Morrison’s was probably better than we have yet seen in Australia from a political leader, it will never go to the point. It will always be couched in terms of radical Islamists surrounded by all those vast numbers of peaceable Muslims who we need on our side to dob in the extremists.

Listen to conservative commentators. They all sing from the same songbook. There are a small minority of extremists and a vast majority of moderates. Common-sense died decades ago. 

It’s as though large disparate populations of people could sustain fourteen centuries of the most godawful conquest, pillaging, violence, enslaving and butchery by just happening, by accident, to always have a small coterie of those rascally radicals within their midst. Someone in power in the West needs to get to the bottom of it. Let me help.

All Muslims are followers of an immutable canon which warps their minds and incites supremacism. True, many Muslims don’t read it or know what’s in the Koran and hadiths but, nevertheless, they anchor and inform their culture. Without it they are effectively in no-man’s-land. When it comes to the crunch, they will come home to Muhammed.

What to do about it? The only thing that can be done is to keep the problem outside the gates. There is no other remedy. Everything else is futile. Unfortunately, the gates have already been well and truly breached.

Still, closing them tight now is better than doing nothing. Will that happen? No, almost certainly not. Welcome to a giant civilisational suicide pact.

11 comments
  • Lacebug

    It’s just so bloody depressing. And there’s nothing at all we can do to stop it.

  • quem

    Not hopeless at all, after 400 years of dhimitude, my ancestors expelled all muslims from the Peloponnese

  • Julian

    Welcome to a giant civilisational suicide pact” Exactly.

    ‘Freedom of Religion’ is that particular chink in the armor of Western Liberalism that allows Islam to enter, spread, and over time, take over (examples of this about) (& just wait until the population goes from under 5% as is now to 10-15-20% and see what other kinds of fun and games are down the road (Europe at the moment is a rough guide))

    ASIO etc might stop a few things (well, they already have) but if you think that long-term ASIO is the solution, I think you’re misguided.

    Maybe they’ll all integrate and convert to Western hedonists? Don’t like the chances of that either.

    The Japanese and Chinese seem to have some solutions. The Japanese one is essentially don’t let it enter. Very wise. The Chinese, sharing a land border with the Turkic Uighers, have decided to erect camps as their solution (which The Age, surprise, surprise, recently provided a biased, one-sided emotionally wrought critique of) (The Burmese have their own problem there with the Rohingyas)

    As Huntington said, ‘the borders of Islam are bloody’ , and sharing no borders (Indonesia considered) we essentially imported this problem in our narrow-minded and naive desire for population-led economic growth along with the Leftist emotional blackmail that we most import people on a non-discriminatory basis (which, quite possibly, and without hyperbole, may have been the most stupid political decision of the last 40-50 years. (See Japan, Hungary, S Korea etc – they don’t seem to have many qualms saying that a) they don’t want mass immigration, and b) if they do want some, then they’ll chose who they want, how many, etc)

    Keep up the good work Quadrant.

  • exuberan

    Muslims are required to follow their Law, Sharia Law. It is interesting to note that Sharia does not require Muslim women to be covered from head to toe when in public.

  • Les Kovari

    “they anchor and inform their culture”. Peter, to call it a culture requires an extreme stretch of the imagination. I really doubt that anybody in the Western, civilised part of the Globe has had an in-depth education about the history of Islam except a very scanty, almost fable like story telling. On the other hand, myself and most people from the European region have an intimate knowledge of the Ottoman invasion and occupation only five or so hundred years ago, It is part of our history and it is well recorded. As such, we cannot avoid talking about it and discussing it. We know that Islam, be it Turkish, Pakistani, Iraqi, is not a civilised doctrine, it is not a religion of peace but a religion of brutality, Ignorant and well meaning bleeding hearts don’t accept this because there is no precedent for it in our life. In our schools we should place more emphasis on studying it and calling it for what it is. As for expecting well meaning Muslims to control their children and restraining them, dream away. Can one ask a venomous snake not to bite and expect it to obey, pull the other leg.

  • stuius

    You’re right, Peter. Few even among conservatives understand the nature and magnitude of the problem. Robert Spencer at JihadWatch does, and provides all the resources anybody needs. But he was denied entry to what he aptly calls “Theresa May’s shabby little police state” in 2013 when she, as Home Secretary, banned him because his presence would be “not conducive to the public good”. So that was the current conservative Prime Minister acting under the previous conservative Prime Minister. The situation is not much better here. Due credit to ScoMo for mentioning “radical, violent, extremist Islam”. Clap clap. But when is he going to start critically assessing Islam per se? He talks as though a large and growing population of Muslims just isn’t a problem. But they mess up every part of the West that they inhabit, turning those parts into a foreign country, and a very unpleasant one. And then there’s the terrorism, gang rape, and crime. This much is obvious to so many of us. What’s wrong with our leaders?! Why are they inflicting all this upon us, even though a decisive majority of the population right across the democratic West has always opposed the mass immigration of foreigners? It is a clear failure of our system of governance.

  • Rob Brighton

    Seems the new software no longer allows responses to comments, pity, asking questions and thinking aloud has helped me understand a number of issues via this quality website.

    @lacebug.
    There are a number of things we can do about it, for the moment we are too civilized to follow them thru. The west is like that, slow to anger but once moved, resolute. Or so it seems to me, perhaps it is just hopeful on my part that it be so for my grandkids sake as I will be looking at the wrong side of a pine lid by then.

    The regrettable part is it will have to get much worse before it gets better before the proletariat is pushed into action meanwhile the Lord Haw Haw’s keep whispering their platitudes. They too will find themselves propping up the masonry come the revolution.

  • [email protected]

    Sometimes Peter the moderates of Christianity are complicit in concealing the ‘God awful’ nature of Mohammedanism.
    The Christian historian, Rector, and university lecturer John Dickson in his naivety confuses reverence for hygiene when he writes in “A Spectator’s Guide – – ‘ When I was given my first Koran by a Muslim leader in Sydney some years ago he asked me to be careful never to put the book on the ground and always wash my hands before handling it. The reverence shown by Muslims to this Word of God [sic] is difficult to overstate’.
    No, they are just practising respect and good hygiene because in the Arab world the left hand is considered unclean because of its toilet function.

  • Robinoz

    It’s not only the orthodox moslems we need to be worried about. The heterodox, so-called moderates, are also a problem. They are the ones white-anting Western societies and non-compliant moslem societies from within through gradualism.

    Islam has been, and is, a very successful tool for taking over non-moslem societies through over-breeding, installation of regional sharia compliant mini-caliphates that ultimately join into one huge caliphate; they become involved in government and promote sharia at schools, universities and so on. It’s like a virus and it regenerates itself every time there is a setback.

    The author is quite correct. The only way to save ourselves is by banning moslem immigration and offloading as many of them who are already here. As we all know, that will never happen, so it’s not too far a prediction that Australia will one day become a majority moslem caliphate. The once great Britain is heading this way as I type.

  • whitelaughter

    Good article, but with glaring mistake – the ‘extremists’ are the majority, not the minority. Consider that:
    83% of Egyptians approve of attacks on American troops.
    68% of Moroccans approve of attacks on American troops.
    90% of Palestinians approve of attacks on American troops.
    72% of Jordanians approve of attacks on American troops.
    52% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (39% oppose)
    60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
    Majorities in Egypt (63%) and Libya (61%) supported the 9/11/2012 attacks against American embassies, including Benghazi.
    89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
    48% if British Muslims would not report a person “linked to terror.”

    https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx

  • Ian MacDougall

    whitelaughter is on the money here.
    The Pew Research organisation is the best source I know of for Muslim attitudes to Islamism.
    Islam has the obnoxious if not fully horrifying objective of a fully Islamised world: it will be Islam wall to wall, or from sea to shining sea. A fully globalised Pakistan or Iran.
    If Australia is to have an immigration program, and I don’t see how we can avoid one in the future world that is now taking shape, then we cannot avoid importing Muslims. And they will ghettoise, breed up, and wait to be led to victory. Because that is what the Koran prescribes.
    As I see it, the only way to knock this future on the head before it gets off the ground is to ban Islamic schools: ie ban the brainwashing of the next Muslim generation.
    On its own, that measure is a prescription for religious civil war. The trade-off to prevent this will have to be a blanket ban on all religious education, and the reintroduction of Sir Henry Parkes’ Federation-era program for education: free, compulsory and secular, with special emphasis on the latter. That in turn means a massive and sustained Commonwealth funding boost for education
    Young Muslims must have a right to be taught the mind-expanding disciplines of science, and history, as well as mathematics and the arts. In short, all the fields of study that are banned or tightly controlled in the totalitarian Islamic countries, where education is religiously based and consists in the main of Koranic studies under the supervision of Islamic clerics.
    This will not sit well with Christians and leaders of other religious communities in the West. But unless it happens, Islam will eventually rise in political and cultural influence.
    And the result will be the very opposite of The Enlightenment: a new Dark Age.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/
    http://www.pewresearch.org/topics/muslim-western-relations/

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