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What happens if Climate 200 candidates knock of Tim Wilson, Dave Sharma, Trent Zimmerman, Josh Frydenberg and/or other so-called moderates? Yes, the election will be lost but it’s probably lost anyway, unless the pollsters are completely off track; which on past experience you can’t rule out. In any event, my query goes to who in future the Liberals would put up to wrest the moderates’ seats back, if any by next Saturday night are in fact lost.
Candidates to the green left of, say, Zimmerman? Are there any such people who haven’t already signed up for the Greens? Might find some, I suppose. Mates of Malcolm Turnbull, Matt Kean or John Hewson? It’s a conundrum. I’ll come back to it. In the meantime, this is precisely what happens when a party is infiltrated by fifth columnists; by those who represent the interests of the opposition.
It loses its independent voice. Ultimately it loses its raison d’être. More than this, the community loses out on a diversity of challenging views. A monoculture develops. Such a culture has more or less developed when it comes to climate change.
If there is a single shared political vision in combatting catastrophic climate change, which there is, then why would a majority of voters ever think differently? And why wouldn’t many voters choose the candidate who promises to do more to fix the “devastating problem” that all major parties agree exists?
Politics is downstream from culture. But it is a mistake, I think, to conclude that politics doesn’t play its part in shaping culture. Having like-minded politicians corrupts our culture. It is healthy to have a plurality of views; that way dissenters are less likely to be persecuted. As it is, it would be a brave scientist in the corporate or academic world, with career afoot, to go against the dominant climate wisdom. Ditto for a budding political operative in the Liberal Party. Cancellation awaits, like the sword of Damocles.
Where goes climate, so goes other issues. As examples. Free speech. Religious freedom. LGBTQ+ demands. The renewed tribalism of Indigenous rights. Objective and rigorous school curricula. Generally, the Labor Party has become unhinged from its industrial base in a forlorn effort to keep inner-city voters from straying green. The Liberal Party is following on. Us too! They’re now all jostling for voters by selling the same bad ideas; albeit with variations on a theme.
Are Liberal parliamentarians robustly and fearlessly in favour of free speech, religious liberty, protecting biological women’s sports from inroads by biological men, equal rights for all, traditional facts-based education? Obviously not. Sure, the occasional right-sounding squeaks can sometimes be detected before the scurrying, lest someone hears and takes offence.
Back to answer my own question. Who will wrest back the moderates’ seats if they are lost? The answer is no one. The seats are lost; at least for a generation. How do you win them back from voters who’ve been schooled by all sides that we have to do our bit to forestall climate Armageddon? It’s impossible to outbid the likes of Kylea Tink, Allegra Spender and Monique Ryan.
A rationale conservative case could be made. Someone from the same party that has committed to net zero by 2050 might explain that climate change has all been overhyped. Good luck.
As it stands, the Liberal-National coalition is much better than the alternative across border protection, defence and probably economic management. These aren’t small things. They are vital things. But so is having a sane climate policy and social policies which align with traditional Western values.
Unfortunately for the Coalition it can’t pick and choose the territory on which the battle is fought. It wouldn’t have to, if it had adopted principled positions across the board and worked hard to bring voters along; or a substantial number of them. As it is, people’s minds have now been warped into a unitary belief on climate and into being tremulous about standing up for old-time values.
It might be a downward spiral from here. Politicians and voters leading each other down the road to perdition. Culture begetting politics, politics begetting culture.
Yes indeed. How about standing up for old time values Mr Morrison and condemning things like States’ ruinous lockdowns, rubber bullets, police brutality and jab coercion. There’s a good start but you abdicated. How about the insanity of net zero, no nuclear power, the increased funding for your enemy the ABC? Too late Scomo you had your chance but you relied on twitter trends and lack principles. The minor parties have the alternative values not the majors. Bracing for worse Labor insanity after next Saturday.
In general people learn by making mistakes. It seems that the regret thus generated is a stronger emotional motivation than merely believing what someone tells us. It would appear that Australia is about to endure another learning experience. Fortunately, if the leader we’re in for is half as gormless as he seems to be, it may be a short, sharp lesson. Or much like last time, he may be replaced by someone more capable and presentable. Last time it was a couple independents and the Greens who brought them unstuck. This time history may well repeat itself. Last time a deal with the Greens, this time with the Teals. Last time enabled by a couple of self-important wannabes, this time by a bunch of entitled Karens. When is Groundhog Day again?
Unfortunately there is another history which is much less satisfying to watch. That is of a principled conservative opposition leader who methodically and comprehensively takes apart a minority government and wins an election by a landslide, only to be stabbed in the back by a bunch of “Moderates”. With no real principles, such people are incapable of effective opposition (witness Victoria) but are happy to rely on someone who has principles to gain power, all the while intent on betrayal when they’ve got what they want. If the Teals are successful and take out the inner city Moderates, leaving Conservatives in the majority, it is entirely possible we could see this history repeat itself as well.
I’m with you, Peter. The age of “feeling” has overcome the age of reason. The eminent good sense of a Tony Abbott draws derision from the powerful and essentially ignorant elites. I despair for the future.
Thanks Peter, clear and concise.
I subscribe to the view of W.B. Yeats, at least the view he held when he wrote “The Second Coming”. “….Things fall apart ; the centre cannot hold……….”.
One can either be left or Right and there’s no proper holding centre. I’m Right, and even though One Nation will get something from me, they can’t form Government, so at the end of the day it’s either Left ( Labour ) or Right ( LNP ) for me.
Ceres is spot on. As PM, Scott Morrison had the opportunity to stand up for conservative values, common sense and the ordinary Australian. He really needed to take the battle to the enemy, especially the Labor premiers and the ABC. Instead he did everything to accommodate them, apparently in the hope that he would be treated with respect in return. Big mistake. Meanwhile they ran riot with their own agendas.
if the ‘moderates’ ie rainbow fanatics – are swept away, then we may see a return to sanity in the Coalition. So hopefully they’ll go.
And no, the election is probably not lost. The polls said that ScoMo lost the last election, remember?
It will be fascinating to see if there is general acceptance of AGW armageddon among the the power bill paying and by extension — voting, public These people are not to be confused with school children and the ABC.
I suspect there are more sceptics than Peter presumes, and if that proves to be the case, then a UAP, LDP, One N., vote will make inroads in the Senate, if not the lower house.
Note that the closure of Liddell Power Station (as miserably patched-up as it is) has been postponed three years in a row now, despite there being no motivation to maintain it in peak condition.
Note that the sudden announcement of early closing of Eraring Power Station (because it *must* lose money when spasmodically prevented from market access when windmills can sometimes work a bit) really unsettled Kean. He knows the grid will fall over because it cannot cope with a 3GW loss to current demand.
Note that AGL has suddenly squealed out loud a bit of truth about net zero by 2030, or 2040, or 2050, because the grid will then be about 5GW short of current demand (which is subdued anyway by lack of manufacturing and throttling of the various heavy industry smelters). But this squealing was prompted by an idealogue pushing his software funds into AGL’s indeterminant planning to destroy the company, not because AGL was initially of a mind to tell the truth.
The “climate control” monoculture within the length of the next Federal Parliament, irrespective of who cobbles a majority, will dissolve into the sort of nasty, unedifying, sometimes vicious squabbling that covid control produced.
In short, the “civil” will be excised from civilisation. Perhaps the monoculture will eventually be at least bent through this learning process. The technobabble of big batteries and hydro pumped to non-existent dams will need to exhaust itself first, of course.
Ceres, word for word, there go my talking points! The left are nothing if not true to their convictions, where a hated KRudd still shills for labor, yet we get Turncoat, Hewson, Fraser and a host of bitter females lurching ever leftwards in search of relevance, popularity with the in-crowd, and business titans,(Forrest, Cannon – Brooks) insulated from the folly of their indulgences all lined up against the system and culture that enriched them. Not to mention any Conservative being purged from politics. More pain to come, sadly.
How can anyone say that Prime Minister Weathervane does not stand for freedom? Why, yesterday he said that he knows that Australians are tired of government interfering so much in their lives; apparently, if we just reelect his party, things will be different next term. And you know you can trust him, right? Just look at his track record!
Freedom is so important to him that he gave it a mention a whole week before the election!
(Or is it that some of the cogs are finally starting to fall into place for him?)
I know that there are many people who want to preference freedom-defenders as much as possible, but the preference system is rather complicated, to put it mildly! These two videos by Topher Field seemed, to me, to explain things quite well. I apologize for the blipped obscenity on the second video.
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https://www.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au/voting-system/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITWXUiK5nHQ
Peter Marriott – 15th May 2022, ‘at the end of the day it’s either Left ( Labour ) or Right ( LNP ) for me.’
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There is a flaw in your logic. It’s either Left (Labour) or Left (LNP). It’s just a slightly different flavour. I honestly don’t believe that it makes a scrap of difference which party wins the house at this election, because it sure didn’t at the last. The LNP will inevitably enact all of labor’s policies anyway. It’s what they do.
A hung parliament would perhaps be the safest outcome, perhaps with One Nation et al getting a seat or two . Then you could openly watch the LNP doing their deals with the devil rather than with true indie conservatives. It’ll be a case of ‘anything but that’.
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Rebekah, how very cynical. (But true). Love it. My guess is they’ve seen some internal polling of their bleeding votes to the cons-indies.
Or is it indie-cons?